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Linux kernel 2 year LTS support. What do you think?


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#1 SuperSapien64

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Posted 12 October 2023 - 05:19 PM

The Linux LTS kernel is only going to have a two year support from now. What are your thought? I think Debian and Ubuntu users might a little annoyed by this.

 

 

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/09/linux-gives-up-on-6-year-lts-thats-fine-for-pcs-bad-for-android/



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Posted 12 October 2023 - 07:36 PM

That's going to affect Mint too?

 

But Ubuntu and Mint keep with kernals a bit behind the main Linux one anyay don't they? I'd guess the major distros will do some of their own kernel support to keep out-dated kernels secure* for longer.

 

*if your system is working, then only security updates to the kernel could ever be needed, any non-security update isn't going to truly matter


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Posted 12 October 2023 - 08:02 PM

Ain't no big deal lock the kernel and if needed change it manually.


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Posted 12 October 2023 - 08:04 PM

That's going to affect Mint too?

 

But Ubuntu and Mint keep with kernals a bit behind the main Linux one anyay don't they? I'd guess the major distros will do some of their own kernel support to keep out-dated kernels secure* for longer.

 

*if your system is working, then only security updates to the kernel could ever be needed, any non-security update isn't going to truly matter

Yeah that's my concern too, especially Debian based distros .



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Posted 12 October 2023 - 11:12 PM

The Linux LTS kernel is only going to have a two year support from now. What are your thought? I think Debian and Ubuntu users might a little annoyed by this.
 
 
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/09/linux-gives-up-on-6-year-lts-thats-fine-for-pcs-bad-for-android/


They won't it force debian and ubuntu to use updated kernels with added newer hardware faster and not have to wait for backports or hardware enablement releases.

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Posted 13 October 2023 - 06:33 AM

Well, it's always been the case; nobody's holding a gun to your head & forcing you to use a new kernel. They're there, they have new fixes for stuff baked-in, and they're easily available. But as The-Toolman points out, if you're using a specific kernel version that's working really well for you, it's simple enough to lock it & keep an eye on things yourself.

 

It's a fact that for older hardware, successive newer kernels are as like as not to suddenly drop support for a piece of hardware. If you really need a specific piece of hardware to work - and KEEP working - it's simple enough to keep a "standalone" system running, disconnected from the Internet, just FOR that.

 

For us in Puppyland, using the single-user model, being the admin of your own system, and being more "geeky" than most Linux users (because it's a hobbyist system, when all's said & done), sticking with an older kernel is rather safer than it would be for the great unwashed public. We're constantly monitoring stuff on a daily basis, and if you think summat untoward might have happened during the course of your most recent session, then.....don't save it. Let it disappear into cyberspace....

 

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Posted 13 October 2023 - 08:49 AM

But as The-Toolman points out, if you're using a specific kernel version that's working really well for you, it's simple enough to lock it & keep an eye on things yourself.

 

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But but Mike we would have to use that that scary black box to lock the kernel.  :huh:  :unsure:


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Posted 13 October 2023 - 05:32 PM

Hmm I guess one upside to this all distros will be more cutting edge so better hardware compatible. :)



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Posted 13 October 2023 - 05:53 PM

I use pure arch, but I highly encourage those that may want to venture to rolling distro to use EndeavourOS.

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Posted 20 October 2023 - 07:05 PM

Maybe Debian and Canonical could make their own three year support LTS kernel?

And back port the newer kernels into it.






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