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what flavour do you recommend for a new debian linux install?


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#1 milkos

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 02:04 AM

 Which Debian Linux OS would you recommend for permanent usage not interested in Tails or Quebes. I was after a linux OS that has great wallpapers like windows 10 does, that has a built in timer, privacy respected, safe telemetry.  Is Elementary an OS that respects privacy?



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Posted 04 February 2022 - 08:03 PM

Sounds like you wanna run Vanilla Debian.  I was gonna say Sparky Linux .

 

But you want certain pre conditions met so it seems you need to start at the source and build up.


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Posted 04 February 2022 - 08:08 PM

I'd suggest mint based on Ubuntu.

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Posted 04 February 2022 - 08:16 PM

My bad. I thought I read Debian somewhere.


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Posted 05 February 2022 - 02:14 AM

 Which Debian Linux OS would you recommend for permanent usage not interested in Tails or Quebes. I was after a linux OS that has great wallpapers like windows 10 does, that has a built in timer, privacy respected, safe telemetry.  Is Elementary an OS that respects privacy?

I have 4 or 5 kali boxen I use on a regular everyday basis just like I would Debian... With this many laptops it's hard to keep track.

 

It's really no different to me than any other OS that comes with a ready rolled DE and default programs they think I can't live without. I wouldn't end up using half of them and haven't looked at half of these.

 

But my tutorial was going to come off that guys site one way or another. Dagnabibt. Then I thought why bother...

 

I kept Kali. Her coming my liberation. Most of those boxen feature wallpapers I made of her.

 

Choosing an OS because it has a lot of wallpapers, not how I pick them..


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Posted 05 February 2022 - 11:46 AM

Kali should never ever be recommended as a daily driver nor should it ever be used as one. It us a special use case operating system with network security type job roles in mind and should be ran on a standalone box or via USB live session. This goes along with multiple security focused distributions designed for network security and forensics.

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Posted 05 February 2022 - 12:20 PM

Some of us Linux users march to tune of a different drummer than what the masses do.  It is usually a given. It never made much sense for me to do a 128 MB Linux Desktop install on a SD card.  But I did it.     Nice thing about living a in free country. 

 

https://duckduckgo.com/?sites=distrowatch.com&k7=%23fdffe3&k1=-1&q=debian+spinoffs+list&sa=Go&ia=web


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Posted 05 February 2022 - 02:12 PM

 Which Debian Linux OS would you recommend for permanent usage

A bit more user friendly than pure Debian installs and works OOTB or always has on my computers.

 

https://mxlinux.org/

 

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/MX-Linux/mx-docs/master/mxum.pdf

 

https://forum.mxlinux.org/


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Posted 08 February 2022 - 05:57 PM

Kali should never ever be recommended as a daily driver nor should it ever be used as one. It us a special use case operating system with network security type job roles in mind and should be ran on a standalone box or via USB live session. This goes along with multiple security focused distributions designed for network security and forensics.

I've posted an even number of FreeBSD and Kali Linux screenshots from,  what I can tell, 3 different standalone machines all running the OS on metal used as daily drivers..

 

I used Debian before I started using FreeBSD almost 17 years ago and used Kali since it was BackTrack 5 from that same time frame, give or take.

 

Kali  is nothing more than a Debian box with a Xfce DE loaded with Kali tools.

 

If I am going to be chastised again, people who do not want to be "computer guys" and hyperbole aside, my screenshots already posted of me dong so and your post quoted to preserve continuity, please explain why I should not be using Kali to justify it as a factual statement and not opinion stated as such.

 

FreeBSD isn't generally considered to be a desktop OS. Should I not be using it either?

 

I have a site teaching people who have never used the command line and actually want to be computer guys how to use FreeBSD. Is that inappropriate as well?


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Posted 08 February 2022 - 07:04 PM

FreeBSD can be be used as a general desktop there is one called GhostBSD that comes with an easy to use installation GUI but I wouldn't use NetBSD, BSDi, or OpenBSD desktop operating systems.

The reason I discourage use of Kali as a desktop is because I'm a security specialist and that's what Kali is for. Security oriented settings only.

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Posted 09 February 2022 - 04:00 AM

FreeBSD can be be used as a general desktop there is one called GhostBSD that comes with an easy to use installation GUI but I wouldn't use NetBSD, BSDi, or OpenBSD desktop operating systems.

The reason I discourage use of Kali as a desktop is because I'm a security specialist and that's what Kali is for. Security oriented settings only.

GhostBSD is not FreeBSD, cannot be discussed in the FreeBSD forums nor I do not need someone else to help get me to the desktop.

 

I have a Beginners Tutorial on Building A FreeBSD Desktop From Scratch with a target audience of someone who has never used the command line that takes you from installation of the Base System to a fully functional Fluxbox desktop using ports to compile third party programs:

 

https://trihexagonal.org/

 

Please do not hold me to your limitation in your choice to admonish me publicly for doing something you would not do that myself and many others find perfectly acceptable in doing on a daily basis. Things that over the years have proven myself quite capable of doing and documented many times in many places..

 

Because it was a display of poor judgement and lack of command line skills in telling someone here to enter the wrong commands in the terminal as root twice in another thread within the last 24 hours.


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Posted 09 February 2022 - 10:42 AM

 Which Debian Linux OS would you recommend for permanent usage
 

Why Debian 11 of course. I am running it on a circa 2009 Toshiba L300 and other than taking me more time than it should, I got my Canon (the bane of linux) MF-4770 up and printing.



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Posted 06 October 2023 - 12:55 PM

FreeBSD can be be used as a general desktop there is one called GhostBSD that comes with an easy to use installation GUI but I wouldn't use NetBSD, BSDi, or OpenBSD desktop operating systems.

The reason I discourage use of Kali as a desktop is because I'm a security specialist and that's what Kali is for. Security oriented settings only.

OpenBSD works fine for me as a desktop, as does it for others as well, and on laptops. With jwm configured to similar keybindings as cwm its a delight to use with either keyboard or mouse heavy usage.



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Posted 06 October 2023 - 06:23 PM


Please do not hold me to your limitation in your choice to admonish me publicly for doing something you would not do that myself and many others find perfectly acceptable in doing on a daily basis.

 

I believe cryptodan's post was addressed to the original poster (and anyone interested). Trihexagonal, you shouldn't take it so personally.

Btw, I use FreeBSD as a desktop, and the GUI, if I recall, can be installed from the initial install.

And now on topic, like some mentioned, I also suggest that if you are interested by Debian, go with the latest install.  Why?  Because you'll always have the latest software releases before any other distro based on Debian.  BTW, I use Debian myself.

And for wallpapers, I would recommend that you browse the Internet as there are lots of free websites out there.  It's my opinion that the selection of an OS should not be based on a feature not comparable on all OS, plus the fact that the feature is better addressed by a simple Internet search.






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