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Debian WIFI security password problem

Started by compis , Dec 09 2023 06:55 PM

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#16 compis

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Posted 04 April 2024 - 07:30 PM

Yes that is correct. If the a user has a linux system they cannot use it in Kiosk mode since the WIFI information can be accessed and modified.

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Posted 04 April 2024 - 07:35 PM

Yes they can use kiosk mode.

https://oofhours.com/2023/05/02/creating-a-kiosk-with-linux/

https://porteus-kiosk.org/

https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/secure-ubuntu-kiosk#1-moved

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.instructables.com/Setting-Up-Ubuntu-as-a-Kiosk-Web-Appliance/%3famp_page=true

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Posted 05 April 2024 - 09:07 AM

Yes that is correct. If the a user has a linux system they cannot use it in Kiosk mode since the WIFI information can be accessed and modified.

Excuse me? Linux distros do in fact have the ability to do Kiosk mode and the wifi SSID and Passphrase can be revealed if set up that way. It is not some private thing unless setup for Radius only and a VPN with that information not allowed while the device is in guest mode. Again suggest that you actually read up on how this stuff works instead of arguing.

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Posted 05 April 2024 - 09:09 AM

Yes they can use kiosk mode.

Please do research some

Too hard. Wonder how their argument with their ISP is going on address scheme given out to the modem.

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Posted 11 April 2024 - 04:55 PM

Every computer can be configured with a script or buy an application to become a KIOSK. What this post is about is preventing a user from accessing or changing the WIFI parameters. But if you want to stray on the KIOSK mode.

Apple laptops can create a guest mode in which the user cannot save or change any running systems parameters. Acting like a KIOSKS without running a script or installing an application.

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Posted 11 April 2024 - 05:00 PM

Kiosks are guest only like you see in brick and mortar stores for computers and tvs

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Posted 12 April 2024 - 12:16 AM

Every computer can be configured with a script or buy an application to become a KIOSK. What this post is about is preventing a user from accessing or changing the WIFI parameters. But if you want to stray on the KIOSK mode.

Apple laptops can create a guest mode in which the user cannot save or change any running systems parameters. Acting like a KIOSKS without running a script or installing an application.

It would stop connecting to the store wifi. So if someone changed the wifi info, what would you expect them to force it to connect to?

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Posted 12 April 2024 - 12:18 AM

Kiosks are guest only like you see in brick and mortar stores for computers and tvs

Kiosks in stores are usually for price lookup, creating of orders. Unless the kiosk mode crashed like ATMs have done and ended up on their embedded CE screen, there is no way to change how it connects to Wifi. If a admin has properly setup a kiosk it would be locked down and changes cannot be made.

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Posted 12 April 2024 - 04:46 AM

Kiosks also serve as demos and what not where you can have a slide show and nothing else.

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Posted 17 April 2024 - 04:47 PM

The point is any linux machine with Network manager applet 1.30.0 a user who has local access to the machine can edit change or copy the WIFI information. That is why Apple and Mac require a root password before access can be made to a key system.

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Posted 17 April 2024 - 05:07 PM

Only if they have access to a user's account with wifi access setup and if the user leaves their machine unlocked and password less then that's the user.

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Posted 19 April 2024 - 10:02 AM

The point is any linux machine with Network manager applet 1.30.0 a user who has local access to the machine can edit change or copy the WIFI information. That is why Apple and Mac require a root password before access can be made to a key system.

Mac OS and iOS do not require "root" password to key system, you just need the login password that you use to log into your account to make those changes. You can set up Linux for the same behavior.

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Posted 25 April 2024 - 05:17 PM

If they have local access to the machine on Linux they can access WIFI information.

Greg I have an Mac OS and tried it on the latest Mac and in both cases you must enter the Admin password to modify or view the WIFI password information. If your machine requires the login password that is still a security defense against viewing or changing WIFI information.