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How Do I Install Linux on a Brand New Computer?


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#31 0lds0d

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Posted 23 November 2023 - 11:07 AM

Good solid advice was given here to first try the Linux (Cinnamon in your case) and then is all works OK and  then do the full install:

 

"4) You should be greeted with your Linux boto screen. It will allow you to try it first or install. I suggest trying it first to make sure everything works (i.e. trackpad, wifi)
 
5) If you like it, you can install it from your live session"
 

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Posted 23 November 2023 - 11:11 AM

You can still use local accounts in windows 11, and there is a cinnamon version if endeavour os.

I can't figure out how.  Did you read my earlier threads?  I followed the common methods posted on YouTube, pulling up a cmd and access the OOBE and also the other (SHIFT+F10) accessing task mngr and disabling a key service.  When I get to the cmd - the keyboard is disabled and I can't enter text.  And the second time I tried - the cmd box disappeared a second after accessing it.  I think MS has already patched those two methods.  And the more I think of it - local accounts will soon be disallowed period.  Trying to stay one step ahead of MS is a losing battle.  I can do everything I need to do in Linux.  



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Posted 23 November 2023 - 11:14 AM

"A USB with the OS.  If I insert the USB before I boot, will it start the installing process?  Or do I need to install Windows 11 first and then change the boot order so I can install Linux?  I do not want to dual boot. "

 

You will insert the USB, then select the boot order in the boot menu and select the USB and it will then start.

There will be the options to either install or use "live" (no installation on the physical drive  just running in the RAM).

I suggest to try live first, then it will do the bootup.

Once booted and the login/desktop appears, then try everything out - touchpad, wifi, screen display, etc.

If all is good and is working properly, then you can still do the complete install from that live session  (onto the drive) and then the install procedure begins.

 

Install will give you the option to wipe out the Windows partitions and then from all times it will then be all Linux. 


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Posted 23 November 2023 - 11:17 AM


You can still use local accounts in windows 11, and there is a cinnamon version if endeavour os.

I can't figure out how.  Did you read my earlier threads?  I followed the common methods posted on YouTube, pulling up a cmd and access the OOBE and also the other (SHIFT+F10) accessing task mngr and disabling a key service.  When I get to the cmd - the keyboard is disabled and I can't enter text.  And the second time I tried - the cmd box disappeared a second after accessing it.  I think MS has already patched those two methods.  And the more I think of it - local accounts will soon be disallowed period.  Trying to stay one step ahead of MS is a losing battle.  I can do everything I need to do in Linux.  

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/windows-setup-which-user-account-type-should-you-choose/

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Posted 23 November 2023 - 11:18 AM

You can go to https://www.ventoy.net create a usb with it, copy the downloaded iso to the writable folder on the usb, insert usb, and boot to it.

You install it then update and you're done.

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Posted 23 November 2023 - 11:29 AM

A guide for Mint see here: https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

 

and as since it been about 10 years ago from my last Linux days ( I think I last  used Ubuntu and it's KDE version too) I will leave this thread and leave it up to the true Linux users and devotees.

 

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Posted 23 November 2023 - 01:35 PM

1. On your older laptop with windows 10....download Linux Mint 21.2, Cinnamon from here. Save it to your desktop or downloads....somewhere easy to find.

 

2. On the same older laptop, Open Balena Etcher ....download it for windows. 

 

3. Use etcher to "attach" the downloaded LM21.2 cinnamon to the usb stick

 

4. Take the usb stick out of the older laptop and insert it in the NEW laptop

 

5.You now need to boot the new laptop to that usb stick

 

6.When it finishes booting, you will see the linux Mint logo on the screen/desktop

 

7. Also on the desktop will be an icon which says "Install Linux Mint" 

Before you click on that, just take a moment or two to see if the sound and internet are connected and working.

 

8. Double click on install Linux Mint. Follow the prompts. it will ask for language (english etc), and will ask if you wish to use the whole disk for Linux Mint....answer Yes.

 

9. There should be one or two questions further along in the install asking if you wish to install multimedia codecs or similar...tick Yes, in all cases

 

10. you can drink coffee and watch. It will probably put you to sleep

 

11. When it finishes, it will ask if you wish to reboot now...reply Yes....it will prompt you to take the usb stick out.

 

12. Go for it.


Edited by Condobloke, 23 November 2023 - 01:37 PM.

Condobloke ...Outback Australian  fed up with Windows antics...??....LINUX IS THE ANSWER....I USE LINUX MINT 21.2  EXCLUSIVELY.

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Posted 23 November 2023 - 01:57 PM

Ventoy is a lot better than using Etcher for booting from usb.

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Posted 23 November 2023 - 08:56 PM


 

12. Go for it.

 

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Posted 24 November 2023 - 12:30 AM

Be sure to turn off/disable secure boot and fastboot in Bios, before you start


Condobloke ...Outback Australian  fed up with Windows antics...??....LINUX IS THE ANSWER....I USE LINUX MINT 21.2  EXCLUSIVELY.

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Posted 24 November 2023 - 08:42 AM

Be sure to turn off/disable secure boot and fastboot in Bios, before you start

How?  I am trying to install Linux on a machine that has no operating system installed?  Do you understand what I am trying to do?  I have not installed Windows 11 and don't know how to access the BIOS without an OS.  MUST I INSTALL WINDOWS 11 IN ORDER TO INSTALL LINUX? 

 

Are new Windows machines configured so that if I insert the USB with the Mint set-up - Will it boot to the USB?  Please - a direct answer to this one  question.  I ask the question and the answers are about something.  Or maybe "you" think I am familiar with what you are proposing? 

 

As soon as I buy a USB stick I will at least give it a go.  I just don't want to mess up the computer as selling it is still on the table for me.


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Posted 24 November 2023 - 08:53 AM

I am not sure why you posted this link.  I do not use any Microsoft services that aren't required.  And Microsoft, it does appear, has patched that trick of setting up a local account.  My computer needs have changed and I really don't "need" Windows on this new computer.  The only reason I have been using Windows is for third party software. 
 



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Posted 24 November 2023 - 09:46 AM

To access your bios. Look up your computers model number then look at the manual for tge button.

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Posted 24 November 2023 - 09:53 AM

MUST I INSTALL WINDOWS 11 IN ORDER TO INSTALL LINUX?

 

No....Simply, Windows was already installed on your computer by the laptop manufacturer, all that was/is necessary to use Windows is to set up your account, it being local or with Microsoft, and choose settings.
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Since you do not want to dual boot, you will be installing Linux as the primary OS and as such, it will be installed over Windows, eliminating it in the process.

 

I have not installed Windows 11 and don't know how to access the BIOS without an OS.

You don't need an OS to enter the BIOS.

You enter before the OS loads/boots up.

Usually pressing the Delete/F2 or F10 key after pressing the start button. It just depends what the laptop manufacturer decided.

Follow Dan's suggestion in looking it up.

 

As noted earlier, there are options in the BIOS you will need to change in order to install a non Windows OS on most new computers.



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Posted 24 November 2023 - 10:18 AM

Can you clarify something. In post #15 you stated the computer is the same one as in this thread.

 

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/791618/setting-up-a-w11-laptop-local-account/

 

Where you are asking how to create a local account in Windows 11 but in this thread you state there is no Windows 11 OS on the computer. Do you mean that in the Windows 11 thread there is also no OS on the computer and you are only inquiring on how to create a local account?






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