Zorin

Bill, your quote ended up empty

Wiz

Yea wiz, I couldn't get rid of the box for some reason.  I tried copying and pasting the options on my grub customizer in there, there were way too many to type, and I got part of another thread I had written shortly before.  Tried 2 or 3 times even, and only once did it not erase itself.  I had the exact problem he had, and a day or two before had read about grub customizers.  I still don't know the difference between burg and grub 2, except they're spelled backwards from each other.  I also know you get 4 or 5 choices for each distro, and with 5 distros that's 20 to 25 choices at 2 lines each.  I usually can't find my glasses fast enough to read that much.  I had all the choices on for awhile.  Now I only have default and recovery for each.  It's simple when you know what to expect.  You can change the grubs on other distros from there too.  I suppose I'm going to have to start using one of those photo sites.  I tried to use photobucket on a boat site, and found out how dumb I was.  And my wife had a fit about me putting things for anybody online.  I know I've copy pasted things here before.   I might give picasa a try, or google plus, or even drop box, it's installed.  I've never done anything with any of them before either tho.  I see he's having trouble with windows now and thinking about wiping everything.  Too bad.  A couple months ago, I tried getting you to try it on your wife's machine, as it doesn't use a lot and has a lot of programs that come with it.

It's still on  my list. I have tried about 12 lightweight distros in the last week, live cd and live usb, and Peach is coming up soon.

Try Imgur. I can have my Imgur account open, take a screenshot and have it posted here in 30 - 45 seconds.

Cheers

Wiz

Wise man said "Don't annoy your wife when you're snowed in for 3 months"

hey all- not wiping anything yet- i have a bunch of emails I have to save first-- Where in "Peach" do I find this Grub thing you are talking about?

As it happens, I am just test-driving the 32-bit of PeachOSI 14.04.1 BB (Bare Bones) to see if suitable for Elaine's laptop.

If similar enough to this one you should be able to do the following:

Go to Applications (Peach icon) and click

Click All Settings icon, which provides

Type in grub in Search field

Bob's your uncle

Wiz

You can also go to applications, then to systems then grub customizer.  I'm reasonably sure if wiz installs it, he'll have the same thing, since it happened to both of us and those are the only two people I know of to install it.  A lot of others have, but I don't know of any of them.   If you're a fast reader, you could probably put all of the choices on the boot page.  Personally I thought it was too cluttered and confusing, but you get more choices, and you can always change it later.

Interestingly enough in the 32-bit Bare Bones Live scenario, it shows under Synaptic that both Grub Customizer and Burg are installed, but tunneling through the menus and submenus, and a textual search at the magnifying glass - do not reveal? Curious.

FYI North Idaho one, the BB flavour of Peach looks to be just the ticket for Elaine's Compaq Presario laptop ... in fact, it's a peach

If I check out eg IceWeasel's RAM usage cf FF, maybe AbiWord &c cf LibreOffice, I might just have the ticket for her.

Wiz

BTW - you DO know, don't you, that we should be in Paul's Peach Topic with this? All Paul's fault

I know it doesn't use a lot of ram on my 2006 32 bit machine.  And it comes with more programs than most I have tried.  You can get your app menu from top or bottom and set up a docky and conky.  So far I haven't got a photo slide show working for a screensaver, but haven't retried recently.  I'm sure it's possible.  And I find it intuitive, that means my wife would hate it.  I'm trying to post in both threads, just responding to what's there.  I'll be over there too.  Have you installed yet, to verify about using the grub customizer, or are you?  Also what the heck is the difference between a burg and a grub 2?  Or are they just messing with me?

 

 

Interestingly enough in the 32-bit Bare Bones Live scenario, it shows under Synaptic that both Grub Customizer and Burg are installed, but tunneling through the menus and submenus, and a textual search at the magnifying glass - do not reveal? Curious.

Sometimes that's what it shows in the description in the Software Manager of Linux Mint, that those apps are installed, but as you mentioned, where are they? GParted is a shining example, it stated that I'd be affecting those packages, well if GParted was there, it sure didn't show in my Start Menu, where I needed it to be. 

I go ahead & install anyway, and normally the software will show in the Start Menu. Having to dig through files & folders to find a 'hidden' software, defeats the purpose of having a lightweight, fast on it's feet OS. Next time I'm on Mint, will install that Grub Customizer, and if it shows it as being there, doesn't matter, will install it anyway, to have the item in the Start Menu. 

If one sees something that's wanted, go ahead & install the software, if there's no way for quick access. 

Cat

Totally agree with Cat's comments, +1

BUT - I boobooed (who said that?)

They ain't messing with you, mate (Bill - heyyou325). Revisit what I said to Paul at #35 and I will modify to say as follows:

1. I downloaded Peach - The Works, 64-bit, to run from a live USB on my PC and see how it shaped up
2. I checked the Grub Customizer options on the 64 to see how it related to what I had Posted to Paul about the 32, and that that reflected, accurately "The State of the Nation" across the board.
3. I found the following:
4. If you follow my previous instructions to get to All Settings, you don't even need to type in "grub", which will show you Grub Customizer by itself, you just scroll down to System
5. 
6. Grub is featured prominently there. Note that invoking the fickle finger of fate over the entry shows a quick tip about Grub2 and Burg.In the BB (Bare Bones) version, 32-bit, the lists are less populated, but I checked with that which I have to demo to Elaine and it was there ditto.
7. When you launch the applet, it defaults as follows
8. to Grub 2
9. Clicking the elevator down button at Grub 2 results in the following
10. 

Now I am going to monkey with these sooner rather than later, but not tonight Josephine.

BTW - burg is Brand-new Universal bootloadeR from Grub.

Also, you CAN edit and change .conf files by other means, but can detail if you are interested, or place where relevant, elsewhere

Wiz

BTW if I have downloaded PeachOSI The Works, and use that with burg ... have I ordered a Works Burger?

In the 32 bit, probably the 64 also, you can just open the customizer app in the system menu on the app menu, choose burg, or grub2, then customize.  I didn't have to install or set up anything here.   Just went to grub customizer in settings, chose burg, and the distro options  I wanted on the boot menu.  Personally I can see default and recovery on the boot menu, but unsure why generic and the other options are needed.  As I said earlier, you can go back in and change anytime if you want to add or take out.   I've never tried anything at grub2 in the customizer.  Wonder what I could mess up there.   I think this is the thread I explained that.  Maybe it's at  I think all the choices for customizing are a bit confusing, especially which options you need on the boot menu, but everybody wants different things.  I like things simple and basic so I make fewer mistakes with it.  Maybe my explanation is at  http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/563915/linux-peach-clean-install/   I know it somewhere at  http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/  .

Good luck Paul, and if you have to reformat, you can always try reinstalling linux too.  Good luck.

Kind of odd, Grub Customizer isn't even offered for Linux Mint 17.1 either through the Software nor Package Manager. 

Maybe Clem and his devs wanted the item to be excluded for whatever reason. Not that I needed it, was going to add just in case I did. Though I use another bootloader altogether, EasyBCD 2.2, it can be installed on Windows Vista through 8 (not sure that 8.1 will allow install), and that how I control booting of my OS's. Though still, when I select Linux Mint, Grub2 still shows, as well as the OS on the same drive. 

All of my OS's are controlled from the main drive on my computers, the reason why is that if Grub were to control the booting, if booting into Windows, there goes 15 second boot times & full load in 20-25 seconds down the drain. Booting into Linux Mint this way, the time is only slightly reduced, maybe adding 3 seconds at the most, and still fully loads faster than Windows. So EasyBCD 2.2 is a very flexible tool for dual booters of any OS's, and all one has to do after install, is first on a single drive, place the Linux bootloader on the root partition of a single drive dual booter. This is a choice when installing the new Linux OS & is the only way this will work when using a single drive. 

Then after install, the system will reboot back to Windows 7 (or whatever Windows is installed), and the user opens the EasyBCD 2.2 app. Then select Linux from the top of the choices, and from the drop down menu, select Grub2, that's a critical choice, otherwise it won't work. Then name the OS, in this case, PeachOS, and select "Automatically detect and install" & OK. After a couple of seconds it'll say that PeachOS has been successfully installed. One can create numerous boot options with this tool. 

It's free for private use, though registration is required. While it can be found on other sites, I'm only going to provide the original, because we have no idea what's bundled in those from others. Here's EasyBCD 2.2 to setup easy dual booting between OS's. There are screenshots and documentation on the site. 

http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/

Cat

Had a quick squiz at the website, looks interesting, Cat.

Is it dual-boot only, or multi-boot?

Wiz

Dual or multi boot, mine boots 4 OS's on two computers, three on two & just a dual boot on one, though that one will soon be three also. On my main PC, which is running 4 OS's at the moment, has the space for a few more, but I'd want to stick another platter drive in there for the /home partitions. Actually one can be added to each for having EaseUS Todo Workstation as a boot option, this allows me to boot into the backup console WinPE style, and can backup or restore partitions, drives, or even clone an OS if needed/desired. 

It's just that EasyBCD 2.2 has to be installed in Windows Vista through 8. Mine all are installed on Windows 7. 

Those running Linux only OS's cannot benefit. 

Cat

When I get some time, I'll check into that for my newer laptop.  It's a bit pain going from windows 8 to mint.  If I go the other way no problem, or from mint to ubuntu or open suse no problem, but I have to get into the machine bios every Sunday to update windows.  I know I sat it up that way.  I've got a lot of things to catch up on, that, a new kubuntu to check out for my daughter.  She had one installed about a month ago and wants me to look at the operating system.  Shes only about 3000 (different side of the country) miles away, so I can't check out how anything is set up.  I really want to read up on how to make my own key so I can put Peach on a uefi computer, and find my list with a few other things on it.  Wife's got me working on 4 new projects now, totally replumbing the house is the worst.  Trying to get set up for that while I'm waiting for pieces to get here, so I've only got a little time to play on computers for a few weeks.  Life's normal.