'Puppy' Linux Corner.....

OpenShot looks pretty good Mike, I don't think I've got a personal use for it at the moment, but I've noted it down in case I ever need it in the future.

OpenShot looks pretty good Mike, I don't think I've got a personal use for it at the moment, but I've noted it down in case I ever need it in the future.

 

No probs, Gary. Glad to have drawn your attention to it.

 

Like I said, if all you want is simple, easy-to-understand video editing, then this baby's the one. It won't appeal to those who want all the bells & whistles, and like to be able to fine-tune everything down to the nth degree; this one's for ordinary folks, who just want to do the job, and get on with their day.

 

After spending 5 minutes or so with the manual,

 

http://www.openshotusers.com/help/1.3/en/

 

...you'll be editing like a pro. Honestly! It's that easy to use.

 

 

Mike. 

Today I decided to replace my Puppy CD which has been full for a few months now, with a Puppy USB. I was surprised to find Universal Installer didn't give me the option of a frugal install on USB, but I followed the prompts anyway, and it seemed to go ok but for some reason the USB would not boot.

 

So back to square one, I reformatted the USB, created a directory on it and copied the four main Puppy files from the CD, then ran Grub4Dos bootloader and installed that to the MBR of the USB.

 

So now it boots fine, and I have what I originally wanted: a frugal installation on USB.

 

Hello, Al.

 

Yep; that's the 'quick'n'dirty' workaround that many of us have been using in the last year or so. The advantage of it is that if you wish, you can not only have Grub4DOS on the drive itself (for portability), but you can also run Grub4DOS from your main machine (as I do) to incorporate the flash install into the main bootloader menu, for ease of booting up.

 

That way, you start your 'Pup-on-a-stick' from the main bootloader, instead of going through whatever routine your machine employs to boot from USB. As long as you plug your Pup into the same port as when you ran the bootloader config, it will always be recognised.

 

The 'sfs file not found' issue is a problem that's been cropping up more and more frequently this last 18 months or so; there's an outstanding request for the problem to be addressed on Github. It appears that the time allowed for Puppy to search for all Puppy files is just too short; it needs increasing. The Ramdisk is initializing before the save-file/folder and the main SFS file have been 'discovered'.

 

See here, leading to here. Watchdog has found a way to make things work by employing an old friend you're familiar with.....GRUB2. (My personal demon..!) 

 

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Just as an aside; you are aware, aren't you, that if you want to make ROX's display larger and clearer, you just right-click anywhere on a space in a ROX-Filer window, select Options->Display, then in the right-hand pane, find 'Icon View', and change 'Small icons' in the drop-down to 'Large Icons'?

 

When you next open ROX, the icons will be the next size up.....and everything is less cramped. You can also experiment with the maximum size the ROX window will go to, by selecting 'Filer Windows' in the left-hand pane, then in the right-hand one, 'Auto-resize filer windows', and adjust the percentage level; usually, you don't want to go over about 75% or so.

 

 

Mike. 

Edited by Mike_Walsh, 18 December 2016 - 02:40 PM.

Hello, guys. I installed Puppy Linux to my laptop, and I'm having some issues connecting to the internet. When I plug the cable in, I click on "Connect", and I see a message:

 

SNS - Barry's Simple Network Setup

Currently a working Internet connection on interface eth0

 

When I click on "Browse", I see a message: "Server not found". Obviously the browser can't open any web page. But the icon in the lower right corner indicates that there is an internet connection.

What could be the cause of this problem? I think that possibly the actual ethernet port of the laptop has a loose connection. Maybe it is a hardware problem, or the cable does not fit for an old laptop?

 

Also, what is "Pale Moon" web browser? Is it like the Linux version of MS Internet Explorer, a not so ideal default web browser?

Hi, BlueGalaxy.

 

Right; first question I need an answer to is.....which Puppy have you installed? 'Cos if you've installed the one I think you've probably installed, there's an easy fix for this. It more than likely involves the new-style firewall.....but I need to know which Pup, please.

 

As to PaleMoon, it's a 'fork' of FireFox. The developers didn't like the way FF was heading, so took the source code and modified it to fit with their vision of how FF should have evolved...

 

 

Mike.

Edited by Mike_Walsh, 18 December 2016 - 05:06 PM.

Hi, BlueGalaxy.

 

Right; first question I need an answer to is.....which Puppy have you installed? 'Cos if you've installed the one I think you've probably installed, there's an easy fix for this. It more than likely involves the new-style firewall.....but I need to know which Pup, please.

 

As to PaleMoon, it's a 'fork' of FireFox. The developers didn't like the way FF was heading, so took the source code and modified it to fit with their vision of how FF should have evolved...

 

 

Mike.

 

The version that I've installed is tahr-6.0.5_noPAE.

If you have WiFi and want to set it up see this post.

 

Connect Puppy Linux To WiFi (SNS)

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/531358/connect-puppy-linux-to-wifi-sns/

Cheers for that, Nick. It's the one I use myself, in all my Pups.

 

Like the name suggests, it couldn't be more simple..... 

 

 

Mike. 

Hello, Al.
 
Yep; that's the 'quick'n'dirty' workaround that many of us have been using in the last year or so. The advantage of it is that if you wish, you can not only have Grub4DOS on the drive itself (for portability), but you can also run Grub4DOS from your main machine (as I do) to incorporate the flash install into the main bootloader menu, for ease of booting up.
 
That way, you start your 'Pup-on-a-stick' from the main bootloader, instead of going through whatever routine your machine employs to boot from USB. As long as you plug your Pup into the same port as when you ran the bootloader config, it will always be recognised.

Using the USB as a replacement for my Puppy CD, I'll perhaps boot up with it for an average of 10 minutes or so, a couple of times a week. Even when I have more than one operating system installed to my HDD, as I usually do, I stick to one for most things, and just use the others for specific purposes, which are often just to try them out.

I did consider allowing Grub4Dos to search my HDD, but I don't need to boot anything except Puppy with the USB, and having other entries in menu.lst would have meant I would have to keep them up to date when I delete and install operating systems from my HDD. So I decided it would be quicker and easier to just use Grub4Dos for Puppy on the USB, and stick with Grub2 for everything else on the HDD.

It's a 16GB USB though, so I might add more Pups to it.

The 'sfs file not found' issue is a problem that's been cropping up more and more frequently this last 18 months or so; there's an outstanding request for the problem to be addressed on Github.

I hadn't heard of that issue. The error I received mentioned a missing OS; I've seen it before and think it relates to my computer and bootable USBs, and is not specific to Puppy.

I don't think I've come across that feature in Rox. At least, not that I can remember. I'll try and remember to have a look at it next time I boot up with Puppy. Thanks for the info.

Hi, Al.

 

I don't think I've come across that feature in Rox. At least, not that I can remember. I'll try and remember to have a look at it next time I boot up with Puppy. Thanks for the info. 

 

 

You're very welcome..!

 

I did consider allowing Grub4Dos to search my HDD, but I don't need to boot anything except Puppy with the USB, and having other entries in menu.lst would have meant I would have to keep them up to date when I delete and install operating systems from my HDD. So I decided it would be quicker and easier to just use Grub4Dos for Puppy on the USB, and stick with Grub2 for everything else on the HDD.

 

 

Mm. Yes, I'd forgotten that bit about GRUB2; like when you get kernel updates, for instance. GRUB2 gets re-written every time that happens.....you would need to have the USB plugged in every time that occurred. But then, from what I recall, GRUB2 won't detect the 'frugal' Puppy.....only a 'full' Puppy install (which is not that commonly used, TBH.)

 

If you want to put multiple frugal Pups on a USB stick, you can use the same method you used for your existing one. Simply create a clearly-named directory for each Pup, and install inside that folder like you did the first one. (Make sure you have no spaces in the name, or else Grub4DOS won't find it). Then, just run Grub4DOS again; Puppy searches two layers deep, so will detect each Pup within its individual directory.

 

You can install as many Pups as you can fit on your drive. Remember, you can put your save-file/folder anywhere you like, and Puppy will find it, as long as that location is accessible. It doesn't have to be on the same drive, although it's best to do so for maximum portability. 

 

There's also this thread that you may find worth perusing, using techniques from the ISOBooter project:-

 

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67235

 

Hope that helps.

 

 

Mike. 

Edited by Mike_Walsh, 19 December 2016 - 09:21 PM.

@BlueGalaxy:-

 

The version that I've installed is tahr-6.0.5_noPAE.

 

 

Mm. I've not used the no-PAE version, although I believe that except for the RAM-address space issue, it's in every other respect identical to the PAE release.

 

Did you set-up the firewall when you first booted into Puppy? And did you let it use the 'Automagic' defaults, or did you configure it for specific ports?

 

BTW, is it using the new-style firewall, developed by AlienBob? 'Cause if I remember rightly, you have to set it up by clicking on the checkbox for 'DHCP server'. I believe this became the standard firewall in the 6.05 release; I started with the original 6.0, and upgraded via the 6.02, 6.03 and finally the 6.05 'service packs', as Phil Broughton, its creator, whimsically decided to name them..! The earlier releases had the old-style firewall.

 

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Well, I've just done a fresh install of 6.05 to a USB, and you do have the new-style firewall. That being the case, right-click on the firewall symbol, right-hand side of the tray (green shield symbol), and click on 'Firewall Setup'. You should get a window like this:-

 

 

 

 

Uncheck the line starting 'The default setting is that all ports are blocked...' Now check the next box down, 'Check this to allow higher level server settings', thus:-

 

 

 

 

Then, check the three boxes I've indicated, followed by 'Apply'. You'll see the 'mangle tables' being generated. These three are the most necessary for the smooth running of Tahrpup:-

 

 

 

 

 

Now, when you attempt to set-up an internet connection, you should be able to do so without problems. One other thing; go into Menu->Setup, and click on 'Tahr Updates'. This will bring Pup right up to date with bugfixes, patches, etc.

 

Hope that helps.

 

 

Mike. 

Edited by Mike_Walsh, 20 December 2016 - 12:17 PM.

You can install as many Pups as you can fit on your drive.

At one time I had 3 - 4 pups on a partition on my desktop pc, but found I hardly ever used them so haven't bothered doing that again. As far as I recall, I was using Grub4Dos on my desktop pc at that time too, as I don't think I knew how to add frugal pups to Grub2 back then.

So it's been a while, but I do have experience of having multiple pups on a single partition/drive, and using Grub4Dos too.

@BlueGalaxy:-

 

The version that I've installed is tahr-6.0.5_noPAE.

 

 

Mm. I've not used the no-PAE version, although I believe that except for the RAM-address space issue, it's in every other respect identical to the PAE release.

 

Did you set-up the firewall when you first booted into Puppy? And did you let it use the 'Automagic' defaults, or did you configure it for specific ports?

 

BTW, is it using the new-style firewall, developed by AlienBob? 'Cause if I remember rightly, you have to set it up by clicking on the checkbox for 'DHCP server'. I believe this became the standard firewall in the 6.05 release; I started with the original 6.0, and upgraded via the 6.02, 6.03 and finally the 6.05 'service packs', as Phil Broughton, its creator, whimsically decided to name them..! The earlier releases had the old-style firewall.

 

I've followed your guide. Now when I try to open any website with Pale Moon, this message appears in the browser window:

 

 

This Connection is Untrusted

 

You have asked Pale Moon to connect securely to www.google.com, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure.

 

Normally, when you try to connect securely, sites will present trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this site's identity can't be verified.

What Should I Do?

 

If you usually connect to this site without problems, this error could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the site, and you shouldn't continue.

 

www.google.com uses an invalid security certificate.

 

The certificate will not be valid until 12/15/2016 10:07 PM. The current time is 05/14/2015 08:38 AM.

 

(Error code: mozilla_pkix_error_not_yet_valid_certificate)

 

If you understand what's going on, you can tell Pale Moon to start trusting this site's identification. Even if you trust the site, this error could mean that someone is tampering with your connection.

 

Don't add an exception unless you know there's a good reason why this site doesn't use trusted identification.

Hi BlueGalaxy

 

 

The current time is 05/14/2015 08:38 AM.

 

That part has me curious, is your system clock running accurately?

 

If not, you could post a separate Topic to have someone help get it fixed.

 

Happy New Year all,

 

Wizard