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Which Distro Is Right For Me? (Redux)


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#121 Porteus

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Posted 28 June 2021 - 10:04 PM

 

 

I wouldn't say there's anything intrinsically "wrong" with Ubuntu

I would, they got rid of Unity Desktop.

 

Now days I prefer the elegance and simplicity of Arch Linux or Puppy.

 

 

Ah the Unity desktop. It has mixed view though back then. User experience is rather subjective. I find the present Ubuntu desktop quite similar in layout to the Unity style. Do you notice any difference in speed or performance? 

 

 

@ Porteous:-

 

TBH, in all the years I've been a member here, I think you're the first one who's really asked about it.

 

You have to understand one thing. With few exceptions (and there's always exceptions, who mistake this place for the lair of long-term, experienced 'ubergeeks!'), most of our Linux users are not a particularly adventurous crew. For many of them, they've either managed to make the break with Windoze, or are wanting to.....and for them, that's a HUGE step. We try to help them as best we can, knowing that many still require a fair bit of hand-holding; Linux is, after all, sufficiently different under the hood that it's like an alien realm to most.

 

This is why Mint is high on the list, because it's simple to understand, easy to use, it LOOKS very like Windoze, and even Windoze refugees who've never tried anything else can in short order start to feel 'at home' with it. And because so many of our members either use it exclusively OR dual-boot with it, there's plenty of folks around who can step-in and help out with queries.

 

But we should never lose sight of the fact that an OS - any OS! - is merely a platform to enable us to run the software we want to use. Quite a number of self-styled Linux geeks often forget this, and become so completely consumed with the whole process of installing/uninstalling/re-installing one Linux distro after another that, for them, it becomes the whole reason for having a computer in the first place. And to me, that's a bit "sad".

 

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Myself, I'd run Windows almost since the beginning; after more than a quarter of a century with it, by the time EOL for XP rolled around I'd had more than enough. I still wanted to use my 'puters, but wanted a break with Redmond. I started off with Ubuntu because that's what everybody recommended; I was running 2 pretty elderly machines, but after less than a year Canonical decided to drop support for the graphics on my main rig. Freeze-ups became the order of the day, and Ubuntu became pretty much unusable for me; Unity's accelerated hardware requirements weren't helping, either.

 

An acquaintance on the Ubuntu Forums recommended I look at Puppy, so.....I did. I liked what I found - really liked! - and as it turned out, it was the first distro I'd ever found that would also run, OOTB, on my ancient Dell lappie, without having to jump through hoops to get the display behaving itself. I was very, very impressed with this, and with the exception of rare forays outside of Puppyland, it's been my "home from home" for several years now. The Puppy community have some amazingly talented coders amongst their ranks, and there is nothing - nothing at all - that they can't find a way of getting to work or run with Pup.

 

In short, I have no use for Windows. I don't NEED it in my life. And if I can help others to break those shackles, I will bend over backwards to do so.

 

Mike.  :wink:

 

Certainly agree with you. The point of having an OS is to run software on it. Sometimes, one couldn't resist the temptation to hope around! 

 

I still use Windows unfortunately. Some Linux distros provide limited support for Asian fonts, and the browsing experience certainly needs an uplift. Ubuntu and Mint can display them nicely though. I know Puppies have a plethora of tools already but if you use Windows programs on Puppies, do you use any emulator like Wine? Or perhaps you don't use Windows stuff at all these days?



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Posted 30 June 2021 - 03:19 AM

 

Do you notice any difference in speed or performance?

Ubuntu is dead to me, I stopped using it when they dropped support for Unity


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Posted 30 June 2021 - 04:40 AM

 

 

Do you notice any difference in speed or performance?

Ubuntu is dead to me, I stopped using it when they dropped support for Unity

 

 

You just broke up with Ubuntu because of a change in GUI interface? I guess other factors might be at play?

 

I tried Ubuntu after reading a local newspaper article. It was all the rage for new Linux users back then. The good old days. 



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Posted 30 June 2021 - 05:15 AM

You just broke up with Ubuntu because of a change in GUI interface? I guess other factors might be at play?

Yes that and the fact I found Arch Linux. ( I still have Ubuntu on the laptop bellow but I mainly run Puppy on it. )
 
 Puppy Linux  on my Intel® Core™ i5 with 8 GiB of ram laptop,

 

I think I need more ram. :hysterical:

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PS

 This is a different PC,

 

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Just for fun once I installed Windows XP in VM on Puppy as the host. I was bored, Not as bored as I was when I installed Internet Explorer on Ubuntu using WINE. Sorry no screen shot. Or when I installed Microsoft Office on Ubuntu using WINE.

 

I must update this.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/539061/how-to-install-microsoft-office-2010-in-ubuntu-with-wine/


Edited by NickAu, 30 June 2021 - 07:23 AM.

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Posted 28 September 2021 - 07:33 AM

It really depends on you. Do you want to customize you desktop go with Arch. If you just want a basic system then try out linux mint. They are examples but you can see which distro you like by using live environment on your system or virtual box.

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Posted 29 September 2021 - 03:41 PM

First, I wish to insist that the following are just feeling about various Linux versions. I'm no specialist even if I tried about a dozen different Linux flavors, so don't hit too hard and not on the head, thanks ;-D

 

I loved Ubuntu but freezes were way too present and bug fixes, especially in foreign languages, are slower to appear than before and regressions happen a bit too often to me. I switched to Mint and I'm delighted. More stable, simpler and a vibrant community witch doesn't assume you have huge knowledge yourself. I'm sorry to say that I feel it as the main problem in Arch forums.

 

I am a non-technical Linux user : Debian is just a little too complicated for my use and Arch is way above my capabilities. I run them, and others, periodically in Virtual Box machines to see how they interact with basic users or even newbies and I'm "a bit" less than enthusiastic. I've seen advanced users and programmers happy with Mint (Debian or Ubuntu based versions), I didn't saw a lot of basics users happy with Arch or even Debian. The supposed easier Debian-facile version has a way too little audience to gathered info and still contain some no so evident trap and tricks for newbies.

 

I never tried Puppy seriously, sorry Mike, nor Manjaro (an easier variant of Arch), the late one because of the necessity to relate to Arch forum time to time (see above). A year ago MX Linux felt unachieved and needed a bit too much "tips and tricks" to run smoothly. Devuan, Elementary and some others like Solus and Springdale didn't leave me a strong impression but I'm really open to advices and return of uses from you all.

 

Last point : most of the Linux are now more straightforward and easier to install than a correct MS-Windows. Way quicker to setup and run, way less privacy-intrusive and way less protections (virus, malware, configs) to install and configure to get a viable installation. Windows may feel easier (really ?) for enterprise-users but for privates users, the hassle of dealing with authorizations, crooks, virus, trojans and so on is too much for most of the people I hear from. Oh they deal with it but they pay too much for what they get. I installed some Linux (<10) to them and never heard a complaint... apart for the printers and scanner drivers. OK, Linux is not that great to play RPGs games but a PS/5 (or equivalent) is way cheaper and efficient than 90% of current Windows-PC. And today, parent's work-at-home/leisure PC must be different from players and kid's informatics, isn't it ?


Edited by jeando, 29 September 2021 - 04:03 PM.


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Posted 25 October 2021 - 08:08 AM

There are more than 600 Linux distros on the internet in 2021. I'm listing top 10 here:

  • Ubuntu
  • Linux Mint
  • CentOS
  • openSUSE
  • Arch Linux
  • Elementary OS
  • fedora
  • Deepin
  • Alpine Linux
  • Kubuntu

Choose the perfect one that works out well for you.


Edited by Cloudy-Tech, 25 October 2021 - 08:22 AM.


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Posted 28 October 2021 - 03:37 AM

Hi,

I have tried half a dozen distros in my time and i finally settled on puppy linux purely for it's ease of use and the ease of recovery in case of failure.

 

Just backup the savefile/folder and restore at will.

Everything you could possibly need is included in such a small package and is not bloated like the big distros.

 

They also have a very good and supportive forum for any issues.



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Posted 28 October 2021 - 08:15 AM

Well, well. Puppy Linux might be great, even greater than others but I certainly wouldn't recommend it for beginners and users coming from Mac or MS-Windows. You can get precisely what you want but...

 

1) The setup isn't easy nor straightforward to begin with. Sending Linux-beginners to gparted to start their install is NOT a good idea. For (all ?) others, it's quite an obligation to get precisely what they want.

 

2) Some foreign or (worse !) exotic language and keyboard design looks not that easy to get. Witch is quite strange considering the fact that nearly all other Linux solutions get you them without hassle !?

 

3) Options & configurations are as powerful as large but they are also a nice way to get lost if you don't know what they're about. In other words it's a very open and beautiful technical solution meaning if you're not an experienced user, run, run for your life ;-)

 

@Cloudy-Tech gave us on Oct 25, 2021 (above) a link to a very good and quite comprehensive overview of the various Linux distro. For what I've tried as a user (about ten years and a dozen Linux versions), I recommend that link with both hands to make your choice. My religion is made on Mint but, hey, Linux is all about informed freedom, isn't it ?



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Posted 28 October 2021 - 04:41 PM

@jeando :-

 

Good points there, I will admit. While it all seems 'old-hat' to those of us 'in-the know', I admit Puppy is not as welcoming to utter noobs as it could be.

 

Those that ARE attracted to Puppy are usually those with either ancient hardware OR oddball set-ups, who are looking for a small, lightweight distro and are generally of the mind-set that loves 'tinkering'. It's essentially a 'hobbyist' system, created by and for those that don't mind diving-in head-first, pulling things to bits and rebuilding it to suit themselves.

 

Most folks, of course, just want to install an OS, as easily and as fuss-free as they can, and simply get on with using it, straight-away. For many, I think, the 3 most important questions are:-

 

  • Can I install it easily?
  • Will it boot without any fuss?
  • Will it auto-connect to my network & can I get on-line immediately?

 

Linux has come on a long way in the last 10-12 years, and most distributions have gone out of their way to address these concerns and, where possible, to make everything important happen automatically in the background without ANY interaction from the user at all.

 

That's not really what Puppy's all about when it boils down to it. "Da Pup" is not for everyone, I'll be the first to admit that. But it still excels at its original 'mandate'.....that of keeping elderly hardware useful, productive and out of the landfill.

 

Some members of the community ARE 'technically-minded'. Many, however, are not. Many of these have migrated to Linux because they've become utterly fed-up with Windows, have heard that Linux is free and nowadays easy-to-install, and have decided to take the plunge. For these individuals, this is a HUGE step, and the Linux community has, by & large, taken enormous strides in making things as welcoming & easy-to-use as they possibly can.....  :)

 

Credit where credit is due.

 

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Edited by Mike_Walsh, 28 October 2021 - 04:48 PM.

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Posted 02 January 2022 - 05:34 PM

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 05:36 PM

at the end of the day i think you need to install a few different distros so that you can try them out yourself. Its always going to come down to what makes more sense to you



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Posted 20 January 2023 - 03:25 PM

I tried to use ZorinOS Pro on a mac 2017 and there was no network and no sound :o luckily for me I spent $500 on a repair and it was still within 20 days so they put mac back in. Make sure to tell them you installed REfind the windows and linux boot manager. I even deleted the fat partition and the os.

 

Zorin has thunderbolt in the security settings though. Its basicly Ubuntu so theres loads of information on the internet including howto use more memory, the default for Zorin is 60 before you run the code.and 10 after.

Zorin has a bootrepair app in the live iso.

I dont know how to post pictures.

Thunderbolt
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More Memory https://imgur.com/HfRWj6s

Zorin info
https://imgur.com/8xP7egT Boot App and Desktop Screenshot https://imgur.com/ZsuAaO2

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Posted 20 January 2023 - 08:27 PM

You are using imgur. Simply copy and paste the image instead of linking to it. I did one image

for you.


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Posted 20 January 2023 - 11:06 PM

Credit to Tommy Brown for this video


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